@9TM9M9G7mos7MO
It’s not unconstitutional. We promise freedom for all. Refusing to do so for LGBTQIA individuals is going against the very ideals our founding fathers fought for.
@TheHillbillyLordRepublican2mos2MO
LGBTQ+ should not be tolerated, it is a severe mental disease that can destroy humanity if left unchecked. How will humanity live if everyone decided to only have sex with the same gender or go through a sex change operation?
@WildManBagginzIndependent 4wks4W
Ah yes, the great existential threat of our time. Not war, not poverty, not climate change, but two consenting adults minding their own business. Truly, history will remember you as the brave scholar who exposed this overlooked crisis.
And let’s talk about this "if everyone decided to be gay" scenario you’ve cooked up. My guy, that’s like saying, “What if everyone decided to only eat ice cream and never touch vegetables? Humanity would perish!” Yeah, but… they won’t. Because that’s not how human nature works. Same-sex relationships hav… Read more
@Ign3usR3xSocialist2mos2MO
You're question just shows how intolerant and ignorant you are of the topic. You're saying if gays are left unchecked then everyone will be gay?! How on Earth did you come to that braindead conclusion?
Same-sex relationships have always been a thing, in almost every species on earth throughout history. For example in ancient Egypt is was normal, in Greece, it was encouraged. Penguins commonly bond for life with a fellow male or female. So you're idea that we'll run ourselves into extinction is incorrect.
Examples in nature of differences in gender expression and divergence in sexual behaviors and their benefits for species.
There other benefits biologically and better outcomes for the raising and tearing of offspring. To date we don't know of any species that does not have members that participate in homosexual or heterosexual divergent behavior. There is a biological imperitive as well as biological evidence of sex and gender divergence both in physiological traits and behavior.
I can name multiple species where there are 3 or more genders with obvious differences that cannot be denied as well as some that are more subtle.
I am a faith base person but I'm also a scientist earning my degree.
I… Read more
@9ZPVCPVRepublican5mos5MO
really how about freedom of religion huh founders never supported homosexuals but I believe were all human begins I believe gays lesbians should be educated on what sexual morals are Jesus said a relationship is between 1 man and 1 woman morals we need in society being a homosexual is sad and shameful a life between the opposite gender is a life with morals and kids and happiness I also believe gays and lesbians and trans shouldn't have children or adopt need morals to or be straight or single
@Renaldo-MoonGreen5mos5MO
It literally doesn't affect you. Stop using religion to hurt the life of others.
@mireyaL 6 days6D
do you not believe in the separation of church and state ?
@Ign3usR3xSocialist2mos2MO
You're misrepresenting the Bible. Jesus never claimed "1 man, 1 woman". The verses are part of a larger passage (Matthew 19:3-9) where Jesus is responding to the Pharisees' question about divorce. He references Genesis 1:27 and 2:24 to explain that marriage was intended to be a lifelong union. However, this passage does not explicitly say that Jesus was defining marriage as exclusively one man and one woman, nor does it address all possible marriage structures directly.
Even the next verse:
"For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his… Read more
@B3YYKT61mo1MO
“Jesus said”
To bring Jesus into politics (something our founding fathers didn't want) is hypocrisy. Muslims don't bring Allah into the conversation, so why is it okay when conservatives bring God into the argument? It's just not fair. To come to a fair solution we can't let belief crowd our better judgment.
@AOCforprez28Progressive1mo1MO
This is the exactly stated in the preamble of the decleration of independence where it states all people are entitled to "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"
@B4HPYNB1wk1W
You can do what you want in the privacy of your own home but the defeniton of marrige is a union between a man and a woman so therefore gay marrige doesnt exist and is a fake thing entirely and gay people shouldnt benfit off something that doesnt exist
@Debater-jr.Progressive6mos6MO
forcing states to protect human rights is unconstitutional?
@9TXX6GSProgressive7mos7MO
nobody is forcing you to partake in a same-sex marriage. legalizing it simply gives individuals the freedom to choose
@9ZPVCPVRepublican5mos5MO
jesus didn't die for this love is love no its not true read the Bible or walk away from God he just come back to you its against the creator and his world order yes I believe God supports freedom of other religions but does not support selfness for love but morals back then it was normal now we live in a clown world you why we didn't like homosexuality back then because most religions said it was evil back then Pornograpy lust Homosexality was all illegal and was a more perfect world back then and the people would know religion better and morals back then compared today yell at me but I forgive you like how Jesus forgave sinners I pray for you all God bless you all
@WildManBagginzIndependent 4wks4W
Oh boy, this is a beautiful display of word salad. Equal parts religious guilt-tripping, historical revisionism, and barely coherent rambling. A true masterpiece of moral grandstanding, delivered with all the grace of Russian Bot trying to write a sermon.
Let’s break this down, shall we?
“Jesus didn’t die for this.”
Right, because when Jesus was up there on the cross, he was definitely thinking about 21st-century same-sex marriage laws. Not, you know, forgiving sinners, preaching love, and condemning hypocritical religious elites. Nope, he was just sitting there like, &ld… Read more
@B3CS9YH2mos2MO
I believe is Jesus Christ. I’m queer. Jesus died for everybody. He loves everybody. He made me this way and he still loves me.
Galatians 2:20 - “I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave his life for me”
John 13:34-35: “A new commandment i give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have loved one to another.”
not only is denying same-sex marriage unconstitutional, Jesus literally told all his followers to love one another, no matter what.
@B3MMD7SRepublican1mo1MO
The Lord didn't make you that way. He gave every human free will to choose but doesn't support the sin. Yes he does love everybody. Jesus loves you.
@B3C3HQL2mos2MO
this is about politics, not about what religion you believe in.
@Renaldo-MoonGreen5mos5MO
"The world was more perfect back them"
Yes this is why so many people were persecuted for no real reason and wars were started about petty differences in religion (30 years war). Yes that was so much better I agree.
@Apploligize4mos4MO
People never seem to have the full context for the history they like to quote or fantasize of.
@Aiden-ColonIndependent7mos7MO
I respectfully disagree with your statement. I know states should have their own power but it is a human right. Same sex marriage should be legalized everywhere as it is a basic human right of equality,
Why can't gays and lesbians accept civil unions as being good enough? Marriage is supposed to be a sacrament that is designated for the union of a man and a woman. Homosexuals do have the legal recognition of being united and do have legal protections with a civil union. So why can't they simply accept that?
@B3C3HQL2mos2MO
Why can't you accept that nobody asked?
Why can't YOU accept that it doesn't affect you when two other people get married?
As a straight man, I want to have more privilege than a gay man. I strongly believe that LGBTQ is inferior, and do not deserve the same rights as straight and cis people. If gay marriage were allowed, that would put gay people as equals to straight people, which is in no way true. Gay people are inferior, sickly beings.
Your argument crumbles the second you realize marriage is not exclusively a religious institution. If it were, atheists, interfaith couples, and people getting married at the courthouse wouldn’t exist. Yet, shockingly, they do.
The government doesn’t hand out sacraments, it hands out marriage licenses. You don’t have to pray to the IRS before filing joint taxes, and last I checked, nobody is reciting the Book of Genesis before getting spousal health insurance. Marriage, as recognized by the state, is a legal contract, not a religious ritual. If your church doesn’t want… Read more
@sylas49 2mos2MO
#8 Engaged Social Issues #6 Engaged Gay Marriage
Respectfully, you are asking a group that lacks a fundamental right possessed by every other group to simply accept compromise. Marriage is not always a holy sacrament, but rather a legal contract under the American government. Denying that contract to anyone based on their gender alone is Constitutionally flawed.
And if marriage was a sacrament alone, the government, as per the Establishment Clause, would have no say in it whatsoever.
@9V2K3SW7mos7MO
Everyone should be able to give love and get love. Commitment can be very important it all depends on the people involved
@@1876-Elbert6mos6MO
Engaged Social Issues Engaged Gay Marriage
Yes. Sin has become a basic human right.
@Renaldo-MoonGreen 6mos6MO
The Bible says you should encourage people to correct their sins and not force them. So yes it always was.
@solo-von-kickpaw 4mos4MO
"@Renaldo-Moon from Pennsylvania disagreed…It literally doesn't affect you. Stop using religion to hurt the life of others." I thought you said not to use religion you hypocrite
I mean. Didn't Jesus die on the cross so we could make choices? According to the Bible "no choice to sin" was Satan's plan. I mean that is if you believe in Christianity and the Bible.
And not everyone agrees homosexuality is a sin. 🤷♀️
@sylas49 2mos2MO
#8 Engaged Social Issues #6 Engaged Gay Marriage
Whether or not homosexuality is a Biblical sin is not the question at hand here. If you cannot set aside your religious beliefs in favor of participatory policy crafting, your ideals will naturally disenfranchise someone. This has been a pitfall of the United States since its establishment, so please don't contribute to that flaw.
@WornoutIguana6mos6MO
The Supreme Court ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges (2015) established that marriage is a fundamental right protected under the Constitution. In fact, the Constitution explicitly limits states' power when it comes to denying fundamental rights, as seen in cases like interracial marriage (Loving v. Virginia). If the same logic applies to race, why should it be different for sexual orientation? If we start letting states pick and choose which constitutional protections they want to follow, where do we draw the line?
@B2SN8Q42mos2MO
The 14th amendment reads “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States,” meaning the Cont. applies to states, and therefore, the constitution forces states to recognize same sex marriage
@9VNM3SZ6mos6MO
The states must also comply with the Constitution, which the 14th Amendment and subsequent Equal Portection Clause are part of.
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