Biology tells us that life starts at the moment of conception so when the sperm fertilized the egg, a new human being is formed and should be protected. Exceptions to abortion are miscarriages, rape, incest, and If it endangers the life of a mother. If none of those apply there are millions of couples in the USA on waitlists to adopt a child because they’re infertile.
Life does not start at the moment of conception. Stop using the bible as your evidence. The bible is a religious book not a scientific testbook.
@9X3C4VF9mos9MO
Yes, religion should be separate from government. Religious books should absolutely not be used as evidence. I respect all religions and religious books by the way.
@solo-von-kickpaw 8mos8MO
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is your opinion evidence half the country believes in the bible I may not but is speakes truth
@9TC4KHH10mos10MO
Really I’ll see you in hell! Are you kidding me? Are you that big of a fool?
@9XLCSH99mos9MO
You need to understand that the bible is not off of research, just written by people many, many, many, many years ago when this wasn't as big of a problem. People should be given a choice to stop something that they don't want to do that was an accident and could negatively affect their health or position in their life, which life is very short, they should spend it how they want to spend it. I understand that the baby doesn't get to live out their own life which is unfair, but they aren't even born yet, something could go wrong with it when it is born, or it could have… Read more
@B5FVW3D 2mos2MO
No one is saying that life starts at the moment of conception. A child gets a heartbeat at 5-6 weeks in the womb. On average, women get abortions when they are 2 1/2 months along.
@B5XJJ563wks3W
and most women get abortions before that, so why are we calling this murder? when a women is rapped I believe there should always be a option for them why is no one trying to put themselves in their shoes here?
@9X44PM2Republican9mos9MO
Of course it's not life at conception to those who look at babies in the womb as property and inconvenient rather than humans.
@ClamNora2yrs2Y
This is because up to 50% of all fertilized eggs spontaneously abort, often before the woman knows she's pregnant. Is this considered a life lost?
Also, while adoption is indeed a noble path, it's important to consider the reality of the system. There are currently over 400,000 children in foster care in the USA, with a third eligible for adoption. Yet, most prospective parents prefer to adopt babies, leaving older children and teenagers in the system. This suggests that the adoption system has its challenges and isn't a simple solution to unwanted pregnancies.
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on these points. Do you think defining the exact moment life begins is straightforward? And how can we improve the adoption system to better accommodate these children?
@C0mfyclouds 12mos12MO
a spontaneous abortion is another way of saying miscarriage… which is entirely different than purposefully taking the life of another human. Most miscarriages are wanted pregnancies and no one goes out of their way to induce them (hence why they are considered spontaneous) but yes this is a life lost 😔. (I mean woman who’ve had miscarriages sure believe so…) Just because someone doesn’t know they are pregnant or want to be pregnant doesn’t automatically deem that life illegitimate.
Rather than sacrifice a life (that isn’t your right to sacrifice) because a system is shot, let’s focus all this attention, as woman, on restoring this system to benefit, not only aborted potentials, but the many other children displaced for various reasons.
@9RR8Q95 10mos10MO
1 Kings 3:27
As it's clear to see, this is a deep and nuanced issue with understandably passionate opinions. I don't like the thought of abortion. All the same, even King Solomon understood that a child's best interests are put in the hands and heart of the mother. Just as the woman in the bible story chose to allow her baby to live with an adoptive parent rather than be killed, I would equally respect a mother's decision to abort a fetus prior to birth. Blessings upon all expectant mothers.
@@1876-Elbert9mos9MO
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King Solomon had God-given wisdom, something many people nowadays can only dream of.
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@9XM82WF9mos9MO
What about the 5-13 year olds or older who get raped? Are they just forced to carry a baby that they didn't want and possibly get scared for life? Giving birth is a scary thing and it should not be considered lightly. It is dangerous, not only for the mother, but for the baby too. What if the baby miscarries? Do we just let the mother die? What if it gets fertilized in your fallopian tube? You will die, your baby will die. There is no maybe or what if, you both will die, you might as well save yourself and try again. People who get abortions often want them for medical reasons and are so distraught that it can be hard to try again, or try at anything ever again. So no, abortion is not some evil thing that is black or white, it is a very grey thing that still needs debated.
@B3J86H6 5mos5MO
The vast majority—well over 90%—are elective, done out of convenience, lifestyle, or economic reasons. So let’s not pretend that abortion is some tragic, rare procedure reserved for desperate medical situations. It is an industry of death that operates primarily out of selfishness and irresponsibility.
Now, regarding the extreme cases you brought up:
Rape is horrific. It is a vile evil. But you do not cure one evil by committing another. Killing an innocent child because of the crimes of the father is morally repugnant. You do not execute children for the sins of their parents… Read more
@PatriotPundit8mos8MO
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My problem with this stance is that it forgets about the life of the baby, and that it believes that suffering is an excuse for death.
@B4HPYNB3mos3MO
that is very rare most of the time it is finacial concerns that cause the baby to die not the 30 in 1000 births that kill the woman mostly due to little acess to medical recourses
@B282DLY7mos7MO
Rape should be handled with a pill. Or before 8 weeks. Later term is just irresponsible.
@9TC4KHH10mos10MO
Too late! They are so messed up that there’s no fixing them is very difficult and nobody wants to deal with this. This happens because their birth families will not let go and that is what is sad. Do not blame this on the people that want to do good, it’s not their fault the fact that their moms, single moms get paid for them, which helps support their lifestyle or pay for the children. They already have other baby daddy‘s.. They don’t give a **** about their kids. They just give a **** about what the kids can get them. My birth mom had two children already. She… Read more
@9SXH6DP11mos11MO
We have to get the kids out of foster homes and adopted much earlier. States have gotten kickbacks for numbers of kids in foster. Bionparents should get no more than 1 year to straighten up. After that rights get termed and adoption can take place. We basically have kids that are lifers in the foster system due to being slow to term parental rights.
@9H4DL4B2yrs2Y
I mostly agree with this position. However, I would like to say that incest shouldn't be an exception; most of the time, the incest exception is there as a result of concerns about genetic defects in the child. Disability shouldn't take away your right to life.
Moreso, I've seen some testimonies from medical professionals that abortion is almost never required to save the mother's life. I don't know this for sure, though, so I would look into that yourself for more detail. Just a thought I've had.
@9SXH6DP11mos11MO
Tubal pregnancy is pretty common actually.
@B52X97V3mos3MO
Yes, abortion is almost never required. But about the incest thing, we all have inalienable, God-given right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This does not depend upon one's parents or one's genetic defects. Also, killing the genetically inferior was the entire premise of Nazi eugenics.
Abortion is murder. Honor life.
@9TC4KHH10mos10MO
I agree with everything you say, but the sad thing is if somebody is in relationship with their father brother anything like that the family will not let anything change. We are not protecting these children. These people will never have abortions because they are not allowed to.
@Bi11R1ghtsPigletGreen2yrs2Y
While it's true that a unique set of DNA is formed at conception, it's important to note that biological life and personhood are not synonymous. There are different philosophical, religious, and cultural beliefs about when personhood begins.
As for adoption, it's indeed a beautiful thing, but it's not a simple alternative to pregnancy. Pregnancy and childbirth have profound physical and psychological impacts on a woman's body, and no one should be forced to go through them unwillingly.
@C0mfyclouds 12mos12MO
but “personhood” is developed, developed overtime. It can even change. A baby doesn’t have the same rationality as an adult, does that make the baby less of a person. It does us no good when we try to prescribe personhood to individuals because once it becomes subjective, and we have seen that mistake all throughout history, we start to discriminate against race, gender, babies, heck even the disabled. Ironically Margaret Sanger (a known eugenist, racist and founder of planned parenthood) believed the very thing you said. See how that mindset (of prescribing “personhoo… Read more
@B4HPYNB3mos3MO
2 wrongs dont make a right its still murder even if it was rape
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